Taking Photo's of brands/Copyright etc

[beedee]

To be honest, i see no further point in commenting on this thread, you have admitted that you used the image without paying for it, yet you are complaining about the consequences.

Would you pay someone for something for which they point blank refuse to offer proof of ownership?

 

[Former Member 1]

Would you pay someone for something for which they point blank refuse to offer proof of ownership?

Most of us wouldn't steal what's not ours in the first place!

If the police find you with stolen property it's up to you to prove where you got it otherwise you become a party to the theft...

 

[TomB]

Would you pay someone for something for which they point blank refuse to offer proof of ownership?

I thought you didn't remember where you got it from?

 

[Former Member 1]

I thought you didn't remember where you got it from?

Somehow I'm reminded of the bloke back in Springburn was was caught stealing slabs from the grounds of the old Forresthall Hospital. The cops caught him with one, and charged him in a one-er with the 60 or 70 that made up his drive....

I can remember him standing bleating over his pint about how unfair it all was... after all, he'd stolen SOME of them from a council van that was parked in the street.. and couldn't remember where he'd nicked the rest!

 

[Former Member 1]

I have already done so.

I can find no where where you have done so.

ONCE AGAIN I put it to you...:laugh: In relation to the Logo(s) Tom asked you about.

Presumably, as you ARE professionally competent, you of course have it's source and the details of the licence under which you used it on record? Would you confirm whether that IS or ISN'T the case?

NO beating about the bush Beedee; do you HAVE an audit trail or not? In other words have you acted competently in this matter or not? Simple question; yes or no answer is all that's required.

And another simple question which I'll put to you again. You, in an earlier post here, admitted operating outside the law. Do you think that was the act of a competent professional?

 

[beedee]

I have been advised to say no more so I am afraid I cannot comment.

 

[TomB]

i find that rather convenient.

 

[stugster]

Hahaha! That advice has come a bit late

 

[Former Member 1]

I have been advised to say no more so I am afraid I cannot comment.

Surely not? :lol:

You've been advised NOT to confirm that you've acted in a proper and professionally competent manner?

You've been advised NOT to confirm that it's unacceptable for a professional to act OUTSIDE the requirements of the law?

You really should have been advised to say no more almost two years ago. Given what you've admitted to here, today, in public I think that advice CLEARLY comes to you VERY VERY late indeed...

Let's see what you've achieved today....

1) You've admitted using material for which you did not pay.... (unlawful)

2) You've failed to confirm that you have complied with normal basic professional practice; specifically maintaining an audit trail for all media assets. (unprofessional)

3) You've confirmed that you have NO professional training in either Web Design or IPR management

4) You've confirmed that you have no professional qualifications to do the job you do

5) You've CONTINUED to pursue your personal agenda by referring people to the FSB thread on which, DESPITE having NO qualifications to speak on IPR matters you continue to post your interpretations of the law....

Seem like you've simply confirmed that the opinions I expressed are well founded. Well done; good day's work there.:thumbup1:

 

[Brian McIntosh]

WOW!!:scared:

Stable door and horse spring to mind.

That was some really interesting links you posted Matt.

 

[Former Member 1]

The Ironic thing about all this is that there (as you suggested yourself Brian) SEVERAL forums where this sort of discussion is going on. Sitepoint being about the best for sheer comedy value.

This sort of thing is dangerous simply because a someone facing this sort of action can make matters MUCH worse from themselves by simply ignoring the matter. The bills are sent out to establish flagrancy and consolidate the case. They're not themselves pursued in court; but the fact that the complainant has made every effort to collect really helps establish the case.

As for the much vaunted section 97 defence. Well just as you would need to establish a particular reason for NOT knowing a driving licence is needed to drive a car there are only a few circumstances where you would have no reason to believe copyright subsisted in a creative work. The DEFAULT being that it DOES exist by dint of the act itself....

You'd need to establish for instance that due diligence reflected it was public domain or that it had been supplied as 'copyright free'; itself a misleading term since nothing actually IS copyright free..... but the bottom line is they even teach the kids in school these days that you can't just steal stuff off the internet or a disc or whatever.... and even WAY back in the days of the WYSIWYG html builder that came with Netscape Navigator there were SERIOUS warnings with the program... It would be REALLY hard to establish that you had no reason to believe copyright subsisted in a particular work.

 

[stugster]

Listen, I have no need to have my ego massaged. I am confident in my own abilities, experience and knowledge.

Your website isn't compliant mate... might want to get that checked by a professional:
[Invalid] Markup Validation of http://www.toucher.co.uk/ - W3C Markup Validator

 

[Former Member 1]

Your website isn't compliant mate... might want to get that checked by a professional:
[Invalid] Markup Validation of http://www.toucher.co.uk/ - W3C Markup Validator

Good point.

While we're at it... I'm a bit rusty on this one; WHAT is the law currently on displaying details of ownership if you're a sole trader? Couldn't find a name, address or details of ownership/trading status anywhere..

And er.....

I was an awarded an HNC (merit) in Computing in June 1992 by the Scottish Vocational Education Council.

By 1992 HN courses were modular. Merits were awarded for individual subjects. That continued 'till quite recently when the HN structure was reviewed and Graded Units were introduced.

Oooh and Bedee; as you mention it I actually do HAVE unit 740019 HN Communication Skills from way back in November 1992! (Just checked an old RET)

 

[beedee]

Only national certificate modules? NOT a complete group award then? N.C. courses being the 'bridging courses' we use to bring non-academic school leavers up to the standard where they can be admitted to HN. Of course we only actually admit them IF they COMPLETE the course.

Please read again.

 

[Former Member 1]

Please read again.

I also have three National Certificate Modules in computer programming gained in 1986 and 1987 when you were just a wee laddie.

I've read it several times. You're not claiming to have an N.C. group award Just three modules... There are 24 in the NC I completed in 8 weeks! Each of them incredibly easy! Because they're JUST foundation level modules! I only did them because it was easier and quicker than getting a credit transfer from the C&G!

And while we're at it.....

Toucher Web Design
XX YYYYY Road, BXXXXX
AXXXXXX
West Dunbartonshire G83 XXX

Doesn't comply with the law either. You're Bryan Weir TRADING AS Toucher Web Design.... And have to identify yourself as such on things like T&C's, contracts etc...

 

[Scottish Business Owner]

beedee, I understand today that you have contacted my web host and asked for these comments to be removed. I have to say this is a bit extreme and actually makes me more determined to keep this all public for all to see.

I will refer you to my last post and would suggest that if you feel there are clear defamatory remarks that you have a solicitor (not an attorney but someone who is UK based and familiar with the law) write to me direct with clear specifics of what is defamatory and I will pass these on to my solicitors and get them to reply.

 

[Brian McIntosh]

Amazing!!!

 

[TomB]

beedee, I understand today that you have contacted my web host and asked for these comments to be removed. I have to say this is a bit extreme and actually makes me more determined to keep this all public for all to see.

, your not seriously saying that this guy did that?

There us only one word that springs to mind here.

Pathetic !!

 

[Brian McIntosh]

And, I take it there is no way to edit threads after the fact?

 

[Scottish Business Owner]

There is the ability to edit threads from a mod perspective and i believe even the user can edit within a certain timeframe. I'm not willing to edit anyone's threads without them asking me to do so but that aside I hand on heart dont believe that anything defamatory has been said on this thread. If this guy wants to waste his time and money pursuing this then let him batter on.