Why invest in Property in the middle of a recession.

[mrkoherence]

Why invest in Property in the middle of a recession.

Lots of investors think that property is the only thing they can invest there money into, when actually there are many other options.

If you have been to property investment seminars and of been told that real estate is the safest way to go, as there cant be a fall in the market due to the demand for property or the government can’t let there be a recession, well let me tell you they can and they are.

Property is a good place to invest your money if you’re in the right place at the right time. Like any other form of investment.

At the moment we are about to enter a recession not only in this country but pretty much all across the world. So putting your money abroad isn't really the answer, even in a rising market it is never straight forward.

Basically what I’m trying to say is when you put your deposit down on a house hoping that in the long term the price will rise giving you equity to leverage, which isn't looking likely in the forthcoming years you could put your £20k or what ever amount you have in to CFD's (contract for difference) and bet that property prices will fall going short. Therefore still making money out of property with out all the hassle of buying one and years it takes to make money on it.

There are many investment platforms and get rich quick schemes out there and to be honest there all pretty rubbish. The best one to go for is a platform that enables you to access the market live meaning there is no delay or company re-quoting you when they feel like it.

So in order to get something like this you will probably have to invest around £20k to get the best package free plus your investment. But if you don’t have as much as that there are cheaper platforms that are just as good but not as many features.

They run seminars once a week, and have an excellent economic calendar and grate analysis.

I hope this opens your minds that there are other places to invest your money other than property.

 

[Former Member 1]

Why invest in Property in the middle of a recession.

Lots of investors think that property is the only thing they can invest there money into, when actually there are many other options.

If you have been to property investment seminars and of been told that real estate is the safest way to go, as there cant be a fall in the market due to the demand for property or the government can’t let there be a recession, well let me tell you they can and they are.

Property is a good place to invest your money if you’re in the right place at the right time. Like any other form of investment.

At the moment we are about to enter a recession not only in this country but pretty much all across the world. So putting your money abroad isn't really the answer, even in a rising market it is never straight forward.

Basically what I’m trying to say is when you put your deposit down on a house hoping that in the long term the price will rise giving you equity to leverage, which isn't looking likely in the forthcoming years you could put your £20k or what ever amount you have in to CFD's (contract for difference) and bet that property prices will fall going short. Therefore still making money out of property with out all the hassle of buying one and years it takes to make money on it.

There are many investment platforms and get rich quick schemes out there and to be honest there all pretty rubbish. The best one to go for is a platform that enables you to access the market live meaning there is no delay or company re-quoting you when they feel like it.

So in order to get something like this you will probably have to invest around £20k to get the best package free plus your investment. But if you don’t have as much as that there are cheaper platforms that are just as good but not as many features.

The best platform I found was through a company called XXXXXXXXX hey offer some good information and help you all the way if you don’t know what you’re doing. If you do they have in house Traders.

They run seminars once a week, and have an excellent economic calendar and grate analysis.

I hope this opens your minds that there are other places to invest your money other than property.

Of your five posts THREE carry this message in near-identical form......

Many people think joining a forum just to post spamlinks back to their own site is good marketing. Personally I think it's anti-social; and certainly not in keeping with the spirit of this particular forum.

Investing in the stock market is a risky business; even for experts. CFDs being a PARTICULARLY riskly option. Sure you can make a fortune; but the chances are you'll loose the lot. In many respects it's no different from Horse Racing!

You have a vague point in that the 'greater fool' principal has rarely been more ably demonstrated by recent events. But how great the fool, having survived with 'something' intact from all that, who doesn't learn the lessons and hooks up with yet another risky scheme. Greater still for the fact that they're essentially being asked to bankroll someone else's gambling with their money!

Spam posters are usually quickly banned here. But I'd ask that a second step be taken to discourage them in future: If their posts are littered with links back to their snake-oil sights that they simply be deleted. Or, if just that a single link exists it's edited out. Simply banning these guys locks the stable door.... But if the horse can be put back inside before doing so that's a bonus.

 

[mrkoherence]

Of your five posts THREE carry this message in near-identical form......

Many people think joining a forum just to post spamlinks back to their own site is good marketing. Personally I think it's anti-social; and certainly not in keeping with the spirit of this particular forum.

Investing in the stock market is a risky business; even for experts. CFDs being a PARTICULARLY riskly option. Sure you can make a fortune; but the chances are you'll loose the lot. In many respects it's no different from Horse Racing!

You have a vague point in that the 'greater fool' principal has rarely been more ably demonstrated by recent events. But how great the fool, having survived with 'something' intact from all that, who doesn't learn the lessons and hooks up with yet another risky scheme. Greater still for the fact that they're essentially being asked to bankroll someone else's gambling with their money!

Spam posters are usually quickly banned here. But I'd ask that a second step be taken to discourage them in future: If their posts are littered with links back to their snake-oil sights that they simply be deleted. Or, if just that a single link exists it's edited out. Simply banning these guys locks the stable door.... But if the horse can be put back inside before doing so that's a bonus.

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Hi Matt,

You obviously think I am spamming, which I am not. My point is not vague at all! What I am saying that investing in property in the middle of a recession is risky! Would you not agree?

I have work for a Property investment company in the past and know that people will invest there money if there fed enough rubbish.

I am sorry for putting up a link to a company that has helped me giving me a good insight in to CFD's and yes it is risky the same as any investment module (property, Gold, Diamonds) if you don’t know what your doing.

My point was only if people are going to invest in property, they should invest in the whole market going down at the moment rather than buy one house and hope prices rise.

Many thanks
mrkoherence
Greg Bell

 

[Former Member 1]

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Hi Matt,

You obviously think I am spamming, which I am not. My point is not vague at all! What I am saying that investing in property in the middle of a recession is risky! Would you not agree?

I have work for a Property investment company in the past and know that people will invest there money if there fed enough rubbish.

I am sorry for putting up a link to a company that has helped me giving me a good insight in to CFD's and yes it is risky the same as any investment module (property, Gold, Diamonds) if you don’t know what your doing.

My point was only if people are going to invest in property, they should invest in the whole market going down at the moment rather than buy one house and hope prices rise.

Many thanks
mrkoherence
Greg Bell

If you weren't spamming why post the very same thing three times across the board? Had you simply posted this once that would have been valid. As it is I've dismissed you already as a snake-oil salesman. I won't be alone; and that sir, is at best pitifully poor marketing.

If you're REALLY not spamming prove it by deleting the content of your duplicate posts and removing the linkspam... I note too that you've made duplicate replies to my post; boosting your post count? Sorry; these are CLASSIC board spamming tactics....

Unless you DO know; REALLY know what you're doing CFDs are worse than a lottery. And those who would seek mug punters to supply them with cash with which to gamble are doing so for quite a clear reason....

As I said....You have a vague point in that the 'greater fool' principal has rarely been more ably demonstrated by recent events. But how great the fool, having survived with 'something' intact from all that, who doesn't learn the lessons and hooks up with yet another risky scheme. Greater still for the fact that they're essentially being asked to bankroll someone else's gambling with their money!

Some of the people will invest in anything if you feed them enough rubbish!

 

[mrkoherence]

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Hi Matt,

You obviously think I am spamming, which I am not. My point is not vague at all! What I am saying that investing in property in the middle of a recession is risky! Would you not agree?

I have work for a Property investment company in the past and know that people will invest there money if there fed enough rubbish.

I am sorry for putting up a link to a company that has helped me giving me a good insight in to CFD's and yes it is risky the same as any investment module (property, Gold, Diamonds) if you don’t know what your doing.

My point was only if people are going to invest in property, they should invest in the whole market going down at the moment rather than buy one house and hope prices rise.

Many thanks
mrkoherence
Greg Bell

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Matt I think you are being quite harsh towards me, I thought the hole point of a Forum was to share ideas and thoughts that people may have together.
Just because someone puts a link to a legitimate website doesn’t automatically mean there spamming!

And could you please tell me why your user name is a link to your company you hypocrite!

 

[Former Member 1]

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Matt I think you are being quite harsh towards me, I thought the hole point of a Forum was to share ideas and thoughts that people may have together.
Just because someone puts a link to a legitimate website doesn’t automatically mean there spamming!

And could you please tell me why your user name is a link to your company you hypocrite!

Before you start with the personal abuse you should better acquaint yourself with forum etiquette. My user name is a link to my company because that's allowed within the rule of the forum.

I note you bodyswerve my main point...

If you weren't spamming why post the very same thing three times across the board?

Again; had you posted a single instance of this message I'd not have given it a second thought. But that's NOT what you've done. NOw; if you're REALLY not a spammer why don't you remove your multiple posts and the associated linkspam?

YOU didn't post A link to a LEGITIMATE service. You posted the SAME message THREE times ACROSS the board. And what's more the sort of service you're promoting is a CLASSIC, well-known honeytrap for mug punters!

I'll be blunt. I personally think the service you're promoting is a trap for the foolhardy. But you're perfectly entitled to disagree with that and indeed share what you see fit. What I object to is your spamming the board.

 

[mrkoherence]

Matt it is not personal abuse! If you would like me to remove some of them I will. But why is it a Honeytrap, they offer a good platform which gives you live feeds and dosent requote you, like some of the well know companies.

 

[Former Member 1]

Matt it is not personal abuse! If you would like me to remove some of them I will. But why is it a Honeytrap, they offer a good platform which gives you live feeds and dosent requote you, like some of the well know companies.

Calling me a hypocrite is, in my view, very much personal abuse.

Frankly; I'm not interested in what you have to sell. I don't care what the platform is. My personal view is that ANYONE who gets involved with CFDs without considerable PERSONAL trading experience and knowledge of the stock market is an absolute bloody idiot. And that stand as much if they're abdicating to an in-house trader as if they're doing it themselves. You'd be better off buying a couple of tickets to Ayr races. That way at least you'll have a good day out and the Mrs gets to pose in her posh frock...

And I'll ask again, with an added request that you don't avoid the question this time...

If you weren't spamming why post the very same thing three times across the board?

 

[Scottish Business Owner]

I have to agree with Matt here. You are spamming!

I think to come on a board and post the same thing three times says it all really. There is no place for this on this forum or any other and all Matt has done is expose this.

I've deleted all the duplicate posts and while i'm happy for you to contribute to the site, promoting fairly complex instruments like CFD's doesn't belong on this forum.

 

[davidc]

Hi guys. As you know I have been involved in property for more than 20 years. I have been dealing in property in Spain for the last 4 years. Now is not the time to invest as prices are still going down. I occasionally still get requests from people, and my advice is WAIT... All other types of investment (timeshare, fractional ownership etc) bar pure freehold, are expensive in comparison. This is a global recession, and nowhere is value at the moment.

 

[mrkoherence]

Thank you Davidc, All I was giving was another option to people who may know a bit about trading. I was in property for a few years myself and thought that some people would find what I have done interesting!
It is different and risky IF you don’t know what your doing like many things but to me it makes more sense than investing in property right now.

 

[tichaonampofu]

"Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful" This is a famous quote from Warren Buffett which I am sure many of you are familiar with. To say now is not the time to investment I PERSONALLY feel would be totally incorrect advice. Now is the time to be CAUTIOUS in investing. Knowledgeable Investors with access to funding I still investing and are probably getting far better deals today than they could have got 4 or 5 years ago. I personally feel investing in any market condition is all about ones personal risk appetite and risk management. There is a global down turn in the market but there are still excellent opportunities if you know where to look and have the right statistical data to support your investment whatever it may be.

I am not saying I am an expert in investing just giving my two sense ;-)

 

[peteark]

Sometimes a person posting a link or several links is not spamming even if they are these kind of issues are normally dealt with in a civilised manner by a moderator or owner having a discrete word. The kangaroo court mentality by a few forum members is unnecessary and will put others off participating in the future.

On most forums there are always a few members who are more active than others, I often wonder what the analogy between the amount of posts and always being right is?

 

[Former Member 1]

Sometimes a person posting a link or several links is not spamming even if they are these kind of issues are normally dealt with in a civilised manner by a moderator or owner having a discrete word. The kangaroo court mentality by a few forum members is unnecessary and will put others off participating in the future.

On most forums there are always a few members who are more active than others, I often wonder what the analogy between the amount of posts and always being right is?

Some forums are rendered worthless by the amount of linkspam and spam posts that they carry. There is NO excuse for posting the very same text (which was the case here) of a thinly veiled sales message several time across ANY discussion board.

I have no issue with someone posting links. Or even promoting a point of view or a service with which I disagree. I took this fellow to task because he had deliberately cut-and-paste the same message several times in several posts. And I make no apology for that. Or discouraging others who would do likewise. It is absolutely necessary that the general membership of the board are intolerant of that sort of behaviour. The moderators being minimal in number with other commitments to deal with.

 

[peteark]

Of your five posts THREE carry this message in near-identical form......

Many people think joining a forum just to post spamlinks back to their own site is good marketing. Personally I think it's anti-social; and certainly not in keeping with the spirit of this particular forum.

Investing in the stock market is a risky business; even for experts. CFDs being a PARTICULARLY riskly option. Sure you can make a fortune; but the chances are you'll loose the lot. In many respects it's no different from Horse Racing!

You have a vague point in that the 'greater fool' principal has rarely been more ably demonstrated by recent events. But how great the fool, having survived with 'something' intact from all that, who doesn't learn the lessons and hooks up with yet another risky scheme. Greater still for the fact that they're essentially being asked to bankroll someone else's gambling with their money!

Spam posters are usually quickly banned here. But I'd ask that a second step be taken to discourage them in future: If their posts are littered with links back to their snake-oil sights that they simply be deleted. Or, if just that a single link exists it's edited out. Simply banning these guys locks the stable door.... But if the horse can be put back inside before doing so that's a bonus.

The point I was raising is, if a new person comes on the forum and needs to be spoken to about spamming, why not have a quiet word or make a humorous comment, the rant this guy received simply made him leave. If aim of the forum is to scare people away, you are doing sterling work.

 

[Former Member 1]

The point I was raising is, if a new person comes on the forum and needs to be spoken to about spamming, why not have a quiet word or make a humorous comment, the rant this guy received simply made him leave. If aim of the forum is to scare people away, you are doing sterling work.

Rarely a day goes by but we see attempts to spam the board. Most are fairly unsubtle and quickly stamped out by the moderators. But, as I'm sure you're aware, spammers, particularly linkspammers are becoming ever-more sophisticated in their attempts to hijack boards like this. Good quality links being harder to fake these days...

There was nothing innocent or 'accidental' in his attempts at spamming. A twelve year old child knows it's not now and never has been acceptable on any forum to post the same thing multiple times; particularly where a commercial message is concerned. My "rant" as you call it was three lines addressing the problem directly. Following which I addressed the points he made.

HE then went on to try and justify his multiple posts, deliberately evading the matter of his spamming the board and refusing to answer a direct question. And indeed indulging in that favourite tactic of the spammer; pathetic personal abuse..... :001_rolleyes:

I believe I've made the point many times that most boards of this nature are rendered virtually worthless because every spammer and his dog see them, not as an opportunity to engage in valuable virtual networking. But as mere platforms to seed linkspam and indeed nest vapid advertisements for whatever random snake-oil they're trotting out.

In fact the problem's SO widespread that I personally currently post on no other discussion board. Life being too short to stuff the mushroom of viagra adverts and timeshares on foreign bombsites....

SBF is almost a year old. And largely free of that sort of activity. And when it DOES occur it's rapidly stamped upon; and not just by me. That's WHY SBF is actually quite a rare thing. A virtual business community that really is a community. And not just a nest of rats crawling over one another to snare the next 'mug punter'....

IF that disappoints those 'types' who think business is about sleight of hand and get-rich-quick schemes then I'll not lose a second's sleep over that.

 

[peteark]

Fair point

 

[Aaron Reed]

what a bad thing to invest