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What is going on with STV

ITV sues STV for £38m | News | Broadcast

Clunes brands STV's drama opt outs "churlish" | News | Broadcast

Doc Martin returned with 7.7m on ITV1 on Sunday night, a share of 30.4%. In comparison, STV’s replacement programme - Oscar-winning movie The Pianist - was only watched by 240,000 (11.8%).
STV says the move has allowed it to show a more diverse slate of local programming, and is boosting regional investment.
Err NO it hasn't and NO it ISN'T....

STV are simply replacing prime time shows that people want to see with repeats of any old half-baked off-the-shelf TWADDLE they happen to have lying around! And it Is Twaddle! Absolute guff!

Their overnight schedule has sunk the very lowest of lowest depths with "STV CASINO".... They've become so desperate they can't even trot out re-runs of "Weir's Way" or Columbo!

I've two direct questions for Bobby Hain:

1) Why the hell do you imagine anyone would want to buy advertising time in the middle of this fifth-rate rubbish you're trotting out?

2) Apart from your own statisticians and spin merchants, who do you thing believes this nonsense about 'boosting regional investment'?

How come? Are you and your cronies Bobby busy building big houses in the country or something? Because all I see is the once leading name in Scottish (if not national) broadcasting reduced to a shambling pitiful wreck! I see no 'regional investment'. Emails from ex-STV staff looking for work are now a near daily feature of the unsolicited messages I get...

STV as is has become as bad as the BBC in terms of supporting only 'those and such as those'; a 'wee boy's club, where competence is less important than who yer Da plays golf wi' '. And even then; it's crumbs!
 
Power Lunch Club

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Thanks for the posting Matt...really good.

On a side note and slighty off thread....I always wondered why they put the sign language programmes on in the middle of the night...is that the time that deaf people watch TV...how ludicrous!!!! (yes Yes, I know they can use the subtititles).

Or public information films about keep safe on the roads, sea or with matches.....why in the middle of the night?
 
jimbairn

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And STV's much trumpeted "The Hour" has turned out to be a ratings disaster as well. On Sunday I tuned to ITV London on cable and watched "Doc Martin" on that and did the same again last night with "Blue Murder"... though I fell asleep 3/4 of the way through that...

They really haven't a clue, have they?
 
On a side note and slighty off thread....I always wondered why they put the sign language programmes on in the middle of the night...is that the time that deaf people watch TV...
The theory is that people use PVRs to 'download' these programmes.

However, instead of squandering great chunks of airspace on the 'non-channels' that are out there it would be quite possible to have an optional 'windowed' signer available on almost every programme in the same way as subtitles can be switched on and off...

Or public information films about keep safe on the roads, sea or with matches.....why in the middle of the night
It's that great modern disease of box-ticking for statistical purposes; they're obliged to run these films. The next time some poor kid drowns off Arbroath in one of those Argos rubber dinghies there will be a government number-spouter wittering on about how much effort the powers-that-be have put in to warning folk..... :confused:

The 'Brilliant Boys Club' are particularly fond of displaying this level of contempt for their public service role...
 
stugster

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I went to tune into Benidorm on Friday only to be disappointed that Shi**y TeleVision hadn't broadcast it.

Why? Because apparently, repeated programming is better for the Scottish viewer?

My ar5e
 
"However, it was unfair to attack STV over the figures, he said, as the broadcaster was responding to years of calls to address the "huge deficit" in local content. "We can't have it two ways. If STV comes in with more local programming, it's great for the viewer as it's extending choice and showcasing Scottish talent."

....Charles Fletcher, of Caledonia Media.

As Karen Dunbar would put it, I smell $h!te....

I really haven't met a single person (outside of STV's management) who has a good thing to say about what they've done... And they're certainly NOT generating work for local crews!
 
jimbairn

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Just for a bit of fun:

How many SBF'ers can answer the following about STV:

1) Complete the phrase "Sit back and relax... it's the ............ Gang!"

2) Name any of the "soaps" produced by STV before "High Road"

3) Who was "The Laird 'o Cowcaddens"?

4) Whose catch phrases included "Nyuch, Nyuch" and "Stoatir"?

5) Name Glen Michael's lamp on "Cartoon Cavalcade"

6) Not STV, but name the teacher played by John Cairney in the mid-sixties?
 
1) 1-O'Clock???

2) "High Living", "Garnock Way"

3) Jack McLaughlin

4) Jack Milroy??

5) Palladin

6) ??? No idea but I actually HAd a real teacher at school in the 70's Called John Cairney!
 
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Stan K

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Shieldinch............halfway between Whiteinch and Shieldhall presumably...............explains a great deal
 
jimbairn

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1) 1-O'Clock???

2) "High Living", "Garnock Way"

3) Jack McLaughlin

4) Jack Milroy??

5) Palladin

6) ??? No idea but I actually HAd a real teacher at school in the 70's Called John Cairney!
Just realised I never replied to this... sorry. Yep, all right apart from No6 which was 'This Man Craig" produced by the BBC.

Incidentally, I've just read that, in a brilliant stroke of original programming, ITV are reviving UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS. Wonder if it'll ever be shown on STV?
 
Incidentally, I've just read that, in a brilliant stroke of original programming, ITV are reviving UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS. Wonder if it'll ever be shown on STV?
Dead thread revival... But somehow I missed this...

Jim, where did you hear this? I shot an interview with Jean Marsh last year and there was no mention of it.... she'll have some of the rights to it I think as she was heavily involved in the production side as well as playing "Rose"..

It's something I'd like to see!
 
Ah! Sheds light on it! That's dated October...

T'was last summer we did the interview... Must have been under wraps!

I wonder how they're going to play it though? They've still got Jean playing Rose? She's a considerable more mature lady now than would place the character 'in period'...

Apparently there was talk of a spin off featuring Hudson and Mrs Bridges which was shelved after the death of Angela Baddely...
 
Businessman

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Tsk tsk tsk... Nearly nine years on from this thread starting and STV is still letting the side down! Technical standards are through the floor, while it seems they're really struggling to fill the opt-outs! - The past few years New Year shows have been an utter disgrace; they even managed to screw up filming the weans' choirs at Christmas!

- I recall one of the management 'yah-yahs' tryng to talk down to me when I pointed out how depleted the channel was becoming. Jokingly I suggested they'd be shooting Taggart in the car park on VHS... Having caught some of their recent output; that would be an improvement!
 
selfemployed

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While there is no doubt the BBC is dumbing down to the SNP - is STV also following suit?

This idea that everything needs to be Scottish based is a joke - entertainment is entertainment whether it is from Scotland, England the US or anywhere else. The problem for STV is that a lack of quality shows means less advertising income which means less to spend on quality shows in the future which means a further slide in advertising income and the vicious circle begins.
 
Businessman

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The 'teuchterisation' of the BBC is something that gets my goat. Mind you, I say the same about the other forms of cultural imperialism we're subjected to! - If, or instance, we were honest about celebrating our Celtic language, we'd all be learning Welsh as its the nearest surviving thing to the old Brythonic that the majority of Celts spoke back in the day. I digress however...

On dumbing down - Driving the BBC in Scotland to 'compete' with the UK BBC news programme is not in the viewer's interests. As it is, you have the best of both worlds. You get a good local news programme on STV which dovetails well with the BBC version - watch both if it's Scottish news you want! Setting one against the other is counter productive; PLUS those in Scotland who want the CHOICE of following UK news are being done down!

But then, the BBC always did have a 'teuchterised' perspective on Scotland.

STV's troubles are much older though... And routed in their 'Icarus' act of a decade or two back. - Bear in mind that I'm ITV-trained and that's where my loyalties. Some of my old teachers (from STV) were guys like Varek Easton and John Frame; the most casual master of their craft you could ever hope to meet. Paul Adderton - another STV/Grampian legend, is a former colleague and mentor... I'm ashamed that it's people of my generation that have brought this once fine station to the sorry state it's in now! - My concerns are with the technicals of course; which are an effing embarrassment! The only thing that stands up at STV is the news output; but that's more despite the stuffed shirts rather than thanks to them...

As you suggest S.E. - they're in a bit of a vicious circle. Frankly, I can't see any evidence that they have the techs in-house to make quality programmes. And even when they come up with cash (People's History for example) to support a good grass-roots idea; the ruin it by making it into a carve-up for the Milngavie Mafia types.
 

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