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Broadband in Scotland lagging behind

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Scottish Business Owner

Scottish Business Owner

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Found an interesting article in the Scotsman regarding the low levels of penetration broadband has had in Scotland. Some really scary elements to the story that seem to suggest that Scotland could get left behind in what is very quickly becoming the digital age.

Erikka Askeland: Why firms can never be too connected to customers - Scotsman.com Business

I think most people on here would agree that losing their broadband for any length of time can cause untold stress both personally and for your business. Food for thought I guess. It would be good to hear from people who have businesses that suffer as a result of poor broadband provision.
 
Adventurelife

Adventurelife

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As a small group of businesses who mainly operate in rural locations the lack of decent broadband and wireless in Scotland is a major break on our business and costs us productivity big time.

All our business systems are online we have no in house IT systems everything is in the cloud. More often than not I get much better service in Morocco than I do in Scotland.

The thick heads in government need to get into their thick heads that world class communication infrastructure is essential if you want to have a economy that works. It also helps meet lots of there green targets as less travel is involved. It does not mean you will be a leader in the world it just means you have a chance to stay in the game.

If Scotland does not get its finger out we are going to get rolled over by more forward thinking countries. I am sorry to say it but more and more of my business time and investments are going overseas rather than in Scotland because it just seems we cannot even do the basics never mind the high end knowledge stuff that will be required to survive going forward.

Rant over
 
BioOutsource

BioOutsource

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I would totally agree with you, we are on one hand moving fast towards CLOUD technology where we don't need individual hard drives to store our data and we can access data from anywhere using internet, and on the other hand we have sever bandwidth or even internet problem in many locations.
 
Mike Lewis

Mike Lewis

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I would totally agree with you, we are on one hand moving fast towards CLOUD technology where we don't need individual hard drives to store our data and we can access data from anywhere using internet, and on the other hand we have sever bandwidth or even internet problem in many locations.
Agree 100 percent.

Mike
 
barry100

barry100

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Dundee has now caught up with 100mb connections across the board. One thing though, Its not 100 all the time but I have hit up to 105 meg at times so im not complaining.
 
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lolunselin

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I would totally agree with you, we are on one hand moving fast towards CLOUD technology where we don't need individual hard drives to store our data and we can access data from anywhere using internet, and on the other hand we have sever bandwidth or even internet problem in many locations
 
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Corrado Mella

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Advance warning: my view might be slightly biased, as the MD of a telecom company, but take it as an insider insight on the debate. :)

New businesses, and established ones that want to expand their products/services, must plan carefully for the location they choose to manufacture/trade from.

A distillery will want to be close to a fresh, peaty water stream with good, constant flow.
A haulage company will need to find a place for their warehouse with excellent road and rail links.
An ice cream shop might want to be in town, in a nice sunny road with good pedestrian traffic.

Likewise, a business that relies on good internet connectivity to trade successfully should find a suitable location where good broadband is already available.

It's entirely unreasonable to demand that telecom operators or the government provides universal super-high-speed internet access throughout the country.

While I accept that many businesses feel they must be online to affirm their presence, very few truly require high speed internet access (and by that I mean in the hundreds of megabit per second) to run their business.

I understand that some areas receive second (or third) grade broadband service, but the reality is that current technology is still limited by distance, and some rural areas are so far from the exchange that nothing will ever be able to provide internet connectivity on the existing infrastructure.

Remember that the ADSL service is piggybacking on technology from the beginning of the 20th century, 120 years old. While 15Km of copper wires are still OK for a telephone service, nothing else will ever work with that.

To deliver universal high speed access throughout the country, we need to deploy a completely new network, be it fibre optics or 4G wireless, and this is a major undertaking that requires a humongous amount of money and time.

We will get there, step by step, but in the meantime all businesses and individuals that right now require high speed internet access to live, trade and thrive MUST open or relocate where the service is currently available.

By end of September 2012 about 85% of the City of Perth will have the new FTTC service (Fibre To The Cabinet) to deploy 40 or 80 Mbps broadband, finally breaking the monopoly Virgin Media had until now thanks to its own fibre optic network.

You will be able to buy FTTC services (incidentally also from my business) and enjoy good speeds even if you are far away from the exchange.
But you will have to wait for a good year or two to get FTTC to rural exchanges. Not because it's uneconomical, but because of the sheer technical difficulty of the work required to lay down kilometers of fibre optics.

Think collectively, and evaluate how much costs you in taxes to get the Government to subsidize fibre optics to your little hamlet, and then how much would cost you to relocate your business where high speed internet is available, as cheap as £25 per month - including line rental (unashamed plug).

Your small shed at the end of the garden of your cottage in the countryside is not the ideal place where to run a business from, regardless of the breathtaking scenery or the apparent financial advantage. It's a false economy.
 
barry100

barry100

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I have had 14 meg BB for almost 2 years. I like in the north west corner of Dundee. I had an office in Dundees technology park, just 100 yards from the datacentre and I got 6meg! The data centre has a 100meg pipe - I get 4-6 meg! I have moved out of there back to my old office in the city centre which I get around 24 meg - its not super fast but it will do for now..
 
Gemma Rowlands

Gemma Rowlands

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It's a shame that there are some places that are not able to be connected at the same speed as everyone else. A decade ago, I would have said that having an internet connection was more like a luxury, but now there is so much done online that it's quickly becoming essential, and those who aren't connected are going to be left behind.

More funding should go into this if at all possible, because people are soon going to find themselves struggling.
 
Scottish Business Owner

Scottish Business Owner

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Hi Gemma,

Completely agree. a decent internet connection these days is almost as important as gas and electricity to alot of people. I know whevever I stay in hotels etc that I make sure they have WIFI etc otherwise I'll simply look to book elsewhere.

There are signs though that things are changing up here in Scotland. Just the other day there was an announcement that Shetland is to be provided with superfast broadband technology - let's hope that's just the start of it so that the island around Scotland can complete on a level playing field with everyone else :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-27079271
 
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eeyorebob

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I don't think it's just Scotland either. Friend of mine has only just had fibre optic bb introduced into their village! It's stupid, how can we expect to progress and widen our business ops if we have rubbish bb! Sort it out someone!
 
Gemma Rowlands

Gemma Rowlands

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I don't think it's just Scotland either. Friend of mine has only just had fibre optic bb introduced into their village! It's stupid, how can we expect to progress and widen our business ops if we have rubbish bb! Sort it out someone!
Yeah that's true actually. I think it's a lot of remote communities. My parents live in a village in England and haven't had it for all that long, but at least they do now!
 
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Pete Brindle

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Well I tell you something, my parents live way out in the country and have problems with even electricity a lot of the time, never mind a fast internet connection! It does seem that some parts of the country are living in a completely different age.
 
Gemma Rowlands

Gemma Rowlands

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Well I tell you something, my parents live way out in the country and have problems with even electricity a lot of the time, never mind a fast internet connection! It does seem that some parts of the country are living in a completely different age.
The price you pay for a nice view!! It is shocking though. I have noticed this a few times when I've been away on holiday, wondering how the people who actually live in the area manage to communicate with people.
 
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