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Additional revenue stream from vMessage

W

web design glasgow

New Member
Hello,

We believe the additional venue stream video email offers is an exciting one.

You can view a sample vMessage by clicking on this link -


vMessage.net offers you the ability to earn from 25% commission by simply promoting video marketing through


Advantages over traditional marketing:

  • Send Video Messages - vMessage allows you to easily record a video message via your webcam or upload a pre-recorded video file and then send it to your contact list via email
  • Track Views - You can then monitor the statistics of messages received via PC or Mobile and when they where viewed
  • Direct Traffic - vMessage features a click through banner to a landing page or website of your choice
  • Engage Your Audience - vMessage can be used across many industries including hospitality, automotive, retail, marketing and internal communications
  • Monitor Conversion - vMessage is an inexpensive application that allows you to track views and conversion
  • Brand the technology as your own - vMessage provides an optional white labelled video messaging platform that sends video messages that arrive completely branded to your organisation.




Kind regards


Mariusz Kozinski

Mariusz Kozinski I Managing Director

T. +44 (0)141 440 7241

vMessage I 38 Carmunnock Road, Glasgow G44 4UE, UK
 
Two or three issues with this...

Send Video Messages - vMessage allows you to easily record a video message via your webcam or upload a pre-recorded video file and then send it to your contact list via email

Yes; technically this is possible (has been for years!). But the reality is that some half assed mickey-mouse video recorded on a web cam is HIGHLY unlikely to have any positive effect as a marketing tool. In fact it's more likely to DAMAGE your credibility as it displays a 'corner shop mentality' which screams cheap AND (more worryingly) nasty...

The 'Sample' V message you link to is, quite frankly, complete crap! WAY too long, inappropriate structure, poorly encoded... The piece is obviously an exhibition video banner and would work well as such on a 40' screen in 1080i... But sent as it is all it says is that you' just don't understand how to use video appropriately.

And, not-so-incidentally, have you though trough the IP rights implications of what you've just posted? You have written permission from Nokia to post this and a full audit trail? They're normally quite guarded about their IP; and frankly I don't believe that NOKIA's PR and Marketing are dumb enough to mis-use their material like that....

Again NONE of the things you hope to achieve will be achieved is you don't know how to use the media properly. Would you send out flyers 'mastered' by your ten-year-old with some ink markers and a drawing pad? Would you promote a computer product by randomly just sending out copies of the installation manual to people? ...Even the talking head on your home page is badly done. It's just that! A talking head, no attempt at visual narrative (the essential advantage of video) and it's not even properly lit, properly framed nor does it have decent audio....

Like text, pictures or any other medium, it's only effective as a promotional tool when WELL EXECUTED!

Hosting video on a web site or even sending out DVDs (or these days Blu-Rays) is a great way of promoting a business. But I'm afraid like most email marketing all this will do is piss people off; especially if, after downloading of finding their way to the site, people are confronted by this sort of really VERY unskilled video promotion....

Film and TV have been around a long time. And people have long-since got over the novelty of just seeing moving pictures... Making video that engages people and works for you is a skilled job; it doesn't just happen by accident or automatically. And there aren't really many shortcuts to producing effective video marketing tools...

The mere ability to distribute video isn't new, and is only a VERY small part of the story. THEN there's the point that you join this forum, and with your very FIRST post launch into a very blatant sales pitch....

The legitimate primary target for your product is marketers. Be they marketing agents or business owners. Why do you imagine your product is a saleable prospect when you A) CLEARLY don't understand the basics of the medium your promoting and B) CLEARLY don't understand the use of virtual communities like this one in a business context?

This speaks volumes about your understanding of marketing concepts and therefore the validity of your claims for your product...

Sorry; But even with 23+ years in the promotional video business I won't be signing up for this; and you can be sure I'd advise anyone to steer WELL clear!
 
W

web design glasgow

New Member
Hello,

I see you company are in competition with our service and so therefore I will leave it at that.

Many thanks

Mariusz
 
Scottish Business Owner

Scottish Business Owner

New Member
Mariusz,

I think to come on a forum and blatantly promote something without even bothering to contribute in any decent way and then have a go at someone who is very clearly an expert in his field and an established member of these forums is not really that sensible a move.

If you want to contribute then fine but if you're using the forums just to drum up business then I would suggest you dont do it as it will only result in a ban being put in place.
 
W

web design glasgow

New Member
Hello all,

This is very strange, i posted my listing the the business marketplace section.

I have then received abuse which we have chosen to not react to, now the administrator is slapping our wrists.

I have obvious misunderstood the purpose of your forum as being one for Scottish Businesses to promote their businesses in the marketplace.

If you wish to remove our posting feel free.

Many thanks

Mariusz
 
Scottish Business Owner

Scottish Business Owner

New Member
FYI - You didn't post it in Business Marketplace I moved it there from the IT section where you made a post on another thread promoting the exact same thing!

Forums aren't about blatant promotion and if you choose to go down that route you wont get very far. Before someone buys from you they have to get to know you and trust you. You wont get very far going the way you're going.

I would hope that you see this as constructive criticism rather than taking the hump!
 
W

web design glasgow

New Member
ok, I now see why mr tfg thought to comment. Have a great day.
 
ok, I now see why mr tfg thought to comment. Have a great day.

And for YOUR information I'm not in competition with you...

I'm a legitimate broadcast trained television programme producer. My business has been running for over 23 of the 30 years I've spent in the field. And I'm also both a lecturer in TV production and consultant to the SQA on the subject....

You, on the other hand are a 'web designer' who's trying to push a rather lame method of abusing the medium of video to spam people. and it IS fact that the material you have online is either of very poor technical quality and/or a probable infringement of someone's copyright; something which is both illegal and unprofessional.

I suggest there is NO competition.

And you were not subjected to abuse; merely presented with the realities of using video in a professional business context.

There is FAR too much of this rubbish whereby every Tom Dick and Harry tries to promote the idea that a half-assed home movie is any kind of business tool. It's not! No more so than a biro-drawn scribble on the back of a beermat is likely to be considered a useful piece of camera-ready artwork!
 
W

web design glasgow

New Member
A medium is a medium. There is good and bad in every medium. You only need to look at the web or switch on the box to see this.

My posting has obviously opened up a deeper can of worms with you. Are you a fan of youtube?

Mediums are what you make of them. I guess you have strong opinions about content being a content producer. I guess you would not argue if i sent my vMessage clients to you for apporpriate film content.

Make love not war, in the current climate more can be achieved through collabaration.:)
 
A medium is a medium. There is good and bad in every medium. You only need to look at the web or switch on the box to see this.

My posting has obviously opened up a deeper can of worms with you. Are you a fan of youtube?

Mediums are what you make of them. I guess you have strong opinions about content being a content producer. I guess you would not argue if i sent my vMessage clients to you for apporpriate film content.

Make love not war, in the current climate more can be achieved through collabaration.:)


You really shouldn't try to guess these things...

Actually, based on what I've seen so far I wouldn't accept work from you... And given the way you are currently presenting yourself and you business neither will any other legitimate professional. To do so would be professional suicide...

You obviously don't understand what you're selling, or doing and that's dangerous. Both from the point of view of your own professional and legal position, that of your clients and that of anyone who chooses to work or associate with you... Twice now I've pointed out that one of the clips you posted is potentially breaking the law. That's not something any professional can either afford to do or be in any way associated with.... And when questioned is something that any legitimate professional would be both quick and able to rebuff...

Yet you've let it slide; just casually brushed it aside.... which tells me a great deal about you, your level of industry understanding and the way you're prepared to do business....

As you say. There is good and bad in every medium... And medium ARE indeed what you make of them. And you make a number of rash claims for the media product you are promoting... In truth ALL you have is a platform, and the novelty of mere platforms wore off years ago....

YouTube IS a great example.... It's wall to wall crap! And is the prime source of examples of how NOT to use online video.... that's not to say there aren't examples of GREAT online business video on there; many of which were made on microbudgets... But the commonly promoted myth that useful professional video can be put together by folk with toy camcorders and webcams is JUST that. No more credible than producing print material using felt-tip pens and a photocopier!

One reasons why some large companies will now spend more on a YouTube oriented video than they will on a broadcast TV ad!

You're obviously struggling to find business; which again speaks volumes. Within the creative (and other) industries there are well understood protocols when it comes to offering agency or 'trade' rates and commissions. All you're doing is telling the world that your service is in fact worth only 75% of the ticket price!

Now; either you're playing a classic mug-punter-draw or you're simply out of your depth and getting desperate. I see a LOT of this; but trying to get sales for your product on a 'commission only' basis is a sure-fire way of driving legitimate customers and suppliers away...
 
W

web design glasgow

New Member
Now this is becoming really silly.

Google have just launched a reseller program for their Google apps series, Microsoft have been reselling for years through resellers. Our company is doing good quality business with real established brands. The clip you meantion, the brand are well aware of it.

I notice you use Youtube on your own site. The problem is you do not know who has viewed the video. Our technology basically solves that problem. You send a video to a contact and you know if they have viewed it via mobile or desktop.

Simple. We stand by our reseller and affiliate approach. If you take a look at most major brands in the world so do they.

vMessage.net is a simple to use platform that tracks views of video. We never presented it as any more. Thanks for your time.
 
vMessage.net is a simple to use platform that tracks views of video. We never presented it as any more. Thanks for your time.

Not silly at all. You talk about viewer engagement.... That's a function of content not the platform.

Are you actually claiming you have written permission from Nokia to use this specific clip in this specific way? Now; I don't mean some vague notion about somebody thinking they sent an email to somebody else... How are you actually managing the IP on this?

....as for describing what you're doing in this context as "affiliate marketing" and comparing yourselves to "major brands in the world" errr... noooo.... :001_rolleyes: :laugh: I hardly think so....

What you're actually doing is alienating the very people who could help you make progress..
 
Mariusz Kozinski I Managing Director

T. +44 (0)141 440 7241

vMessage I 38 Carmunnock Road, Glasgow G44 4UE, UK

And since we're thinking about the legalities and propriety of how you carry out business....

You're managing director of WHAT exactly?

A limited company called "V Message"? No? Of...

0141 DESIGN LIMITED
38 CARMUNNOCK ROAD
GLASGOW
SCOTLAND
G44 4UE
Company No. SC276429

.....Can you explain why you don't comply with the relevant legislation with regard to the disclosure of company names? Not on the Vmessage site ..Not on the 0141 Design site... Assuming of course you ARE MD of 0141 Design Ltd?
 
W

web design glasgow

New Member
vMessage.net offers you the ability to earn from 25% commission by simply promoting video marketing through vMessage.net –

Advantages over traditional marketing:

  • Send Video Messages - vMessage allows you to easily record a video message via your webcam or upload a pre-recorded video file and then send it to your contact list via email
  • Track Views - You can then monitor the statistics of messages received via PC or Mobile and when they where viewed
  • Direct Traffic - vMessage features a click through banner to a landing page or website of your choice
  • Engage Your Audience - vMessage can be used across many industries including hospitality, automotive, retail, marketing and internal communications
  • Monitor Conversion - vMessage is an inexpensive application that allows you to track views and conversion
  • Brand the technology as your own - vMessage provides an optional white labelled video messaging platform that sends video messages that arrive completely branded to your organisation.
 
W

web design glasgow

New Member
oh my gosh, are you still here.

vMessage contact page shows our company status.
 
Funny that; It didn't when I checked half an hour ago.... (yes we have it cached)

I still have the 0141 up BTW.... No detail on that....

And what about that IP? DO you or do you not have specific written permission from the copyright holder to use that clip in the way you're doing. Could you give me your contact name? I'd like to just check it.
 
vMessage is a brand of 0141 Design.

0141 Design is a company registered in Scotland
(company number SC276429)
with its registered office at
38 Carmunnock Road,
Glasgow G44 4UE
United Kingdom

I think you'll find that's non-compliant....

Business Names - GBF3

May 2009 - Version 18


Disclosure rules

1. Do the disclosure rules apply to all businesses?

If the Business Names Act 1985 applies to you (see chapter 1, question 3) then you must comply with all the disclosure rules. For example, if Mr W Jones trades as 'W Jones Bakery', then the disclosure rules of the Business Names Act apply. Disclosure rules also apply to incorporated companies that trade under a different name, for example, ABC Foods Limited trading as ABC Foods.

Incorporated companies must also comply with the disclosure rules of the Companies Act 1985. These include the way a name must be displayed on correspondence, documents, place of inspection and websites. The Companies (Trading disclosures) Regulations 2008 (Statutory Instrument 2008/495) introduces further changes from 1 October 2008. These rules are fully explained in our 'Company Formation' guidance at Companies House.

2. What information must be disclosed about a business?

You will need to disclose:

* the corporate name (if the company uses a different trading name); or
* the name of each partner; or
* the individual person's name; and
* in relation to each person named, an address at which documents can be served.

3. Where must this information be shown?

You will need to show the information clearly:

* in any place where you carry on your business and where you deal with customers or suppliers;
* on business correspondence ;
* on websites;
* on written orders for the supply of goods or services;
* on invoices and receipts;
* on written demands for the payment of business debts.

Some examples of ways in which you can show the information on your stationery are shown in Appendix D. As long as the details are 'clearly legible' they can be handwritten or printed.
 
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